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 Post subject: Clear pick guard
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:29 pm 
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I have been trying to apply a clear pick guard- the self sticking mylar from stew mac- with less than satisfactory results. There are always tons of little bubbles under it. Any suggestions on how to get better results. I have tried both wet and dry applications. I am thinking about buying some thin clear plastic and gluing it on rather than using the precoated sticky kind. Thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:46 pm 
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Hey Chris,

If they are bubbles it's your technique and you'll just have to practice more. Make sure everything is clean, clean, clean! That includes de-linting yourself before application.
If it looks more like a reverse imprint of the grain, let it sit a few days and that will go away. Slight heating with a hair dryer after applying the guard can help speed the process along. Don't get the surface much more than warm to the touch.

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Exactly. Unless its a full on bubble, all the light spots in the summer growth lines will disappear by themselves.


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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Use a little dishwashing soap in the water, and squeegy it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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In the water?


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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Pat Foster wrote:
Use a little dishwashing soap in the water, and squeegy it out.

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+1, a couple of drops in 200 ml (don't shake) here, spray on PG and top, large beveled eraser for a squeegee.
Don't get fingerprints on the adhesive!

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Here's a good you tube video that may help.http://youtu.be/c9XKuourJs4

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Thanks for the tips guys. I am now happy with it.

Alright, so here is my list of learned mistakes (hopefully it will help someone not repeat what I did):

Mylar doesn't route well (using a template)
Cutting mylar with an exacto knife leaves the edge nasty and it likes to peel up
Plain water doesn't work as well as water with a few drops of detergent
Dry application.... nope
Cutting with scissors ala the Frank Ford video mentioned is the way to go.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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I messed with the stewmac ones, scissors, etc, and was equally diappointed with the results. l now buy the tap plates from Ron Fernandez, and then have them laser cut. I can send anyone my CAD file if you like, and then you just need to find one of those guys that have a laser engraving business, to cut them for you and you will have awesome high quality clear pick guards. I use a guy in Calgary, for any of you Canadians.


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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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jason, who is r. fernandez? thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Thanks ok , yes I saw his name somewhere . I like wooden tap plates. But will check with RF for the plastique, merci


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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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Chris , if you have the kinkead book on ss const . he uses a walnut veneer pickguard I don/t know if it/s glued or sticky sided.But IMHO like the look. I/ve noticed over many years (40) that clear pickguards curl up after X number of years attract dirt and dust under the curl and just my opinion look cruddy to my eye, just like plastic binding shrinks over time an cracks .It/s a judgment call on the part of the luthier. I/m guessing that on some tops , a clear pickguard would look better than a wood veneer What do you other luthiers do, and use ?? Just curious. Thanks.


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JasonM wrote:
I messed with the stewmac ones, scissors, etc, and was equally diappointed with the results. l now buy the tap plates from Ron Fernandez, and then have them laser cut.

How does the stewmac material differ from the Fernandez? Laser doesn't melt the edges?

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 Post subject: Re: Clear pick guard
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The fernandez ones are a little thicker. never tried laser cutting the stewmac ones, let us know if you try, if they cut cleanly. the thicker ones have a slight bead, but it ends up on top, so does not impede the adhesion.


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